Toilets, Sinks, Showers, Tubs and Disposals - toilet flow impeded, slow drain
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aspenfam
01-09-06, 04:59 PM
I have two full bathrooms in my townhome and am having flushing difficulties. The downstairs one is working just fine water pressure and and flow in check. In the upstairs bathroom the toilet will flush, tank will fill, but waste will not flow out of toilet. Liquid that is residing it the bowl will drain out. When we flush the water rises and circles but doesn't completely empty the bowl. I tried plunging it many times to no avail but eventually drain the waste down the piping. When I plunge it there is no extra noise in the tub or sink and the water goes slowly. The next time(s) we flush it is the same deal. What would be causing this and how would I unjam the rut?
majakdragon
01-09-06, 05:39 PM
aspenfam, Welcome to the DIY Forums.
Sounds like a typical clog. May be in the toilet trap or in the drain line from the toilet. You can start by renting a Closet auger. This hand tool will normally clear out any clog that is in the toilet bowl and trap. If that doesn't work, then it's time to pull the toilet and go through the floor flange with a snake.
Before you go the mechanical route, you may want to try an enzyme drain cleaner such as Drain Care. Enzyme cleaners cling to the clog and eats it. This doe's not include combs, toothbrushes etc. While it will eat the paper that may be wrapped around such item, it has it's limits. It takes overnight and may take more than one treatment but it does work. Good luck.
Sounds like a typical clog. May be in the toilet trap or in the drain line from the toilet. You can start by renting a Closet auger. This hand tool will normally clear out any clog that is in the toilet bowl and trap. If that doesn't work, then it's time to pull the toilet and go through the floor flange with a snake.
Before you go the mechanical route, you may want to try an enzyme drain cleaner such as Drain Care. Enzyme cleaners cling to the clog and eats it. This doe's not include combs, toothbrushes etc. While it will eat the paper that may be wrapped around such item, it has it's limits. It takes overnight and may take more than one treatment but it does work. Good luck.
buf
01-10-06, 09:34 AM
aspenfam, your problem 'sounds' identical to one I HAD. Did all the drills that were given to me and even considered replacing the commode. I finally thought of something. I opened a wire coat hanger, bent a part of it and then stuck one end into EACH of the holes under the lip of the commode to remove any buildup of chemicals found in some household water systems as furnished by a city, county; etc. The wire being pushed into each hole opened the hole and was a bit like using a plunger on the holes. Presto, when I then flushed the commode, I got a far better swirling action from the water from the commode tank and flushing was fully accomplished. That remedied my problem and if you try it, I wish success for you also. Post back to let us know of your anticipated success.
EDIT: The opening of the holes gives a stronger flow of the water that comes from the tank for this exact flushing purpose.
EDIT: The opening of the holes gives a stronger flow of the water that comes from the tank for this exact flushing purpose.
majakdragon
01-10-06, 10:02 AM
Cleaning out the rim holes is not a bad idea in any way. You can pour something like CLR into the hole under the flapper and let it sit in the rim for a while and then flush. Coat hanger also clears the holes themselves. This will remove calcium, lime and rust deposits all the way around the inside of the rim.
When you said the water rises, is what says to me that it is a clog. There is a trap in the bowl of the toilet. Water sits in the trap to block sewer gases from entering the house. A trap is simply a "U" shaped canal (similar to the traps under your sinks) and only holds a certain amount of water. When more water is added, it emptys that same amount out the back of the trap. UNLESS there is something stopping the water from exiting. That something is a clog.
When you said the water rises, is what says to me that it is a clog. There is a trap in the bowl of the toilet. Water sits in the trap to block sewer gases from entering the house. A trap is simply a "U" shaped canal (similar to the traps under your sinks) and only holds a certain amount of water. When more water is added, it emptys that same amount out the back of the trap. UNLESS there is something stopping the water from exiting. That something is a clog.
buf
01-10-06, 02:01 PM
I seem to recall pouring some muriatic acid into the drain under the flapper and allowed it to sit and then flush; cleaning out the scale, rust, or whathaveyou in those holes I had pushed the wire into. I think it is the power of that water running out those holes that does the final flushing effectively. Hope so.
buf
01-21-06, 07:57 AM
Since we haven't heard from aspenfam since he/her initial post, we haven't any way of knowing if the suggestions offered did any good or not. I would like to think that the problem is solved since no additional posts have been entered however, we may never know. Neither will other people with similar problems know whether to try the offered suggestions for their like problems.. This a side benefit of this forum.