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twodb
12-31-05, 08:02 PM
I've just replaced the flapper in my old style toilet with a generic flapper from Home Depot (black w/chain). It was the only one I saw that would fit down over the fill tube (it doesn't attach with the "ears" as some do). Now my problem is that the flapper falls to fast i.e. as soon as you release the handle. To get a complete flush, I have to hold the handle down until the water starts swirling, then I can release it. The toilet seems to operate normally (as it always did) other than this problem. Thanks for your help!

David


DUNBAR PLUMBER
12-31-05, 08:04 PM
I would find the name of the toilet and buy the flapper made specifically for it. Retrofit flappers can be very problematic, especially on Kohler toilets.

twodb
01-03-06, 05:30 PM
Thanks for the speedy reply! The toilet is an American Standard, which I guess aren't so standard. Also, unfortunatly, I have no other sources but Loews and HD. The plumbing supply stores I found won't sell to John Q. Public. If I find a flapper that's for an American Standard, that appears to be like the old one, should it work? In other words, are the A.S. flappers standard for the A.S. toilets (within type - i.e. "ear" attachemnt or overflow tube attachment). Or (god forbid) do I have to have some sort of model number? I hope this dumb question makes sense. Thanks again...

David


majakdragon
01-03-06, 08:12 PM
twodb, Welcome to the DIY Forums.
I can only add to what Dunbar said but perhaps the adjustment is off and causing your problem.
Adjust the chain so that the flapper "just" seals. No more slack than necessary. This will usually hold the flapper open longer. Test for leakage after adjusting the chain by pouring a couple cups of coffee (liquid only no grounds) into the tank. if you see the water in the bowl discolor, you will have to put a little more slack in the chain. Good luck.

twodb
01-03-06, 11:17 PM
Will adjust tomorrow... Thanks ya'll for all your help!!!

David

lordy
01-06-06, 08:03 AM
I just did the same thing - fitted a HD retro flapper to an American Standard toilet and had exactly the same problem. Shortening the chain till it was just long enough cured the problem. Good Luck!