Painting - Which primers go with which painted surfaces
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Dark City
12-22-05, 08:09 PM
:wall: I purchased a 25 year old contemporary house and will be using this forum frequently. The first "challange" I've run into in all the different kinds of painted surfaces in the house. The various surfaces are listed below. Will an expert out there tell me which primer I have to use and which paint I'll have to use for each of these surfaces.
Master bedroom is painted semi-gloss fire truck red and school bus yellow!!
Don't know if it's oil or latex.
There are two layers of trim around the windows. The top wood is pine stained dark brown and covered with varnish. The layer next to the wall is cedar stained dark brown with nothing on it.
The woodwork and other trim is stained dark brown with varnish.
The wood shelves are stained dark brown but do not appear to have any varnish on them. If there's anything on them it's not shiny.
Master bedroom is painted semi-gloss fire truck red and school bus yellow!!
Don't know if it's oil or latex.
There are two layers of trim around the windows. The top wood is pine stained dark brown and covered with varnish. The layer next to the wall is cedar stained dark brown with nothing on it.
The woodwork and other trim is stained dark brown with varnish.
The wood shelves are stained dark brown but do not appear to have any varnish on them. If there's anything on them it's not shiny.
marksr
12-23-05, 07:27 AM
All the varnish, cedar and oil base paint will need an oil base primer. The bedroom walls are probably latex but since you need to prime everything else with oil I would prime it with oil base also. Anything with varnish/poly on it should be sanded before priming. 1 coat of a good oil primer should be sufficent. The primer may not completely cover the paint or stain but as long as all surfaces are coated, thats ok. You will likely need 2 coats of finish.
joneq
12-23-05, 08:43 AM
its as easy as 123 (http://www.zinsser.com/product_detail.asp?ProductID=11) You still need to clean the surfaces[extremely important :wall: ] ,but that is it-clean then prime. If you use a scotchbrite pad to clean it can't hurt. Water cleanup=good.
There will need to be some pretty unusual circumstances before 123 will not work--like painting clean glass---OH wait it sticks to that too!!!!!!!!
All Zinssers products are great imo and they are pretty available. It pays to keep a can of 123 around. It is usually all you need. It can be tinted toward the finish coat.light or dark colors.
If you need to tint it dark they need to use a special base,but it can be done.
Floetrol is another item you may want to google :thumbup:
Some words of wisdom from joneq to the new homeowners out there.
"If it ain't clean don't paint it"
Nothing wrong with doing it the way marksr suggested. My method is just another way.
There will need to be some pretty unusual circumstances before 123 will not work--like painting clean glass---OH wait it sticks to that too!!!!!!!!
All Zinssers products are great imo and they are pretty available. It pays to keep a can of 123 around. It is usually all you need. It can be tinted toward the finish coat.light or dark colors.
If you need to tint it dark they need to use a special base,but it can be done.
Floetrol is another item you may want to google :thumbup:
Some words of wisdom from joneq to the new homeowners out there.
"If it ain't clean don't paint it"
Nothing wrong with doing it the way marksr suggested. My method is just another way.
Dark City
12-30-05, 01:41 AM
Thanks for the info. I really appreciate it.