Water Heaters - Tankless water heater after one year.
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StickStan
12-12-05, 11:03 AM
This is based on my Norwitz water heater that I've had for a year.
I would like to hear what others have found.
It looks like the pay back will about 7 years. Of course if I need any repair service or natural gas prices change, this time frame will change.
I'm am happy that it is saving me $$. There are a few things I like even if doesn't save any $$s.
Since my old water heater was almost 11 years old and I was re-plumbing the house it seemed like a good time to go tankless. I figured this reduced the cost over just swapping out a water heater. My house was build in the 40's and the natural gas line needed to be larger, so that added to the cost. All-in-all it was a smooth project, we also replaced all the faucets throughout the house, that way it seemed we did something for the $$s :)
I like the fact that the water heater has a control panel, which I installed in the kitchen. This way when we run the dish washer I can kick the water temp up to max temp. Our old heater was starting to make noises when it heated water, no big deal, but it had woke me up when re-heating water in the middle of the night sometimes. Not something worth replacing a water heater over, but I'm glad thats gone.
I turns out to be harder than one would think to figure savings. During the winter with the furnace on, gas usage changes, and gas cooking and laundry makes gas use swing. I also feel the our hot water usage makes for more saving than most families might get.
I also feel the Norwitz unit is more complex than some of the others I looked at. I don't feel 'complex' is a good thing, but I'm sure it adds to gas savings.
I have never noted my Norwitz heater missing one beat or failing to heat all the water as sized for, and should not be overlooked by anyone considering a tankless heater.
Hope someone finds this useful.
BTW I tried to do a Search here for a posting like this, but only came up with a list of ads. I like using search on most web sites, did I do something wrong here? Any Search tips would be helpful. Thanks
I would like to hear what others have found.
It looks like the pay back will about 7 years. Of course if I need any repair service or natural gas prices change, this time frame will change.
I'm am happy that it is saving me $$. There are a few things I like even if doesn't save any $$s.
Since my old water heater was almost 11 years old and I was re-plumbing the house it seemed like a good time to go tankless. I figured this reduced the cost over just swapping out a water heater. My house was build in the 40's and the natural gas line needed to be larger, so that added to the cost. All-in-all it was a smooth project, we also replaced all the faucets throughout the house, that way it seemed we did something for the $$s :)
I like the fact that the water heater has a control panel, which I installed in the kitchen. This way when we run the dish washer I can kick the water temp up to max temp. Our old heater was starting to make noises when it heated water, no big deal, but it had woke me up when re-heating water in the middle of the night sometimes. Not something worth replacing a water heater over, but I'm glad thats gone.
I turns out to be harder than one would think to figure savings. During the winter with the furnace on, gas usage changes, and gas cooking and laundry makes gas use swing. I also feel the our hot water usage makes for more saving than most families might get.
I also feel the Norwitz unit is more complex than some of the others I looked at. I don't feel 'complex' is a good thing, but I'm sure it adds to gas savings.
I have never noted my Norwitz heater missing one beat or failing to heat all the water as sized for, and should not be overlooked by anyone considering a tankless heater.
Hope someone finds this useful.
BTW I tried to do a Search here for a posting like this, but only came up with a list of ads. I like using search on most web sites, did I do something wrong here? Any Search tips would be helpful. Thanks
are34
12-12-05, 03:37 PM
Hello,
I to am getting a Noritz tankless water heater installed this comming Friday.
Looking forward to it. The kids like taking long hot showers and by the
time I get in the water is cold.
What model did you get ? I am getting the Noritz N-069M . Are you happy
with the performance of the heater? :)
I to am getting a Noritz tankless water heater installed this comming Friday.
Looking forward to it. The kids like taking long hot showers and by the
time I get in the water is cold.
What model did you get ? I am getting the Noritz N-069M . Are you happy
with the performance of the heater? :)
StickStan
12-14-05, 11:14 AM
I forgot what model it is about a year ago :) It was about the smallest one then made, but was rated for about 2 showers.
it's "performance" is fine. Others have used hot water when I'm taking a shower and the only thing I notice is I get hotter water. That might be do to less cold water flowing into the house. It dosen't get hot enough to need adjusting, just something I can feel.
How are you ever going to get your kids out of the shower once they have unlimited hot water? Your water and gas bills might go up :D Ha Ha
it's "performance" is fine. Others have used hot water when I'm taking a shower and the only thing I notice is I get hotter water. That might be do to less cold water flowing into the house. It dosen't get hot enough to need adjusting, just something I can feel.
How are you ever going to get your kids out of the shower once they have unlimited hot water? Your water and gas bills might go up :D Ha Ha
Pendragon
12-17-05, 08:43 PM
the kitchen. This way when we run the dish washer I can kick the water temp up to max temp. Our old heater was starting to make noises when it
You might try using the water heat function on your dishwasher instead.
Just curious, but what do you have it set to as your 'normal' temp and 'dishwashing' temp?
You might try using the water heat function on your dishwasher instead.
Just curious, but what do you have it set to as your 'normal' temp and 'dishwashing' temp?
StickStan
12-21-05, 08:27 AM
'normal' temp = 122F
'dishwashing' temp = 160F
'dishwashing' temp = 160F
Pendragon
12-21-05, 11:11 AM
There's really no reason to wash your dishes in 160 degree water, they never got washed in water that hot before dishwashers.. :)
StickStan
12-23-05, 12:28 PM
There's really no reason to wash your dishes in 160 degree water, they never got washed in water that hot before dishwashers.. :)
You have me confused? Are you joking(maybe the reason for the 'smile face')? OR is that the #1 reason not to do something?
You have me confused? Are you joking(maybe the reason for the 'smile face')? OR is that the #1 reason not to do something?
Pendragon
12-23-05, 02:33 PM
Nope, I'm serious. There's no reason to wash dishes in water that hot unless you are running a resturant and the state requires it.
That's not to say you can't, just there's no reason to in the confines of your own home.
I'm just saying if you want to do that, you could use the water heat function of your dishwasher and save yourself the hassle of changing the setting on your tankless everytime you needed to do dishes. Also be less likely of someone getting a VERY serious burn because they forgot you started the dishwasher.
That's not to say you can't, just there's no reason to in the confines of your own home.
I'm just saying if you want to do that, you could use the water heat function of your dishwasher and save yourself the hassle of changing the setting on your tankless everytime you needed to do dishes. Also be less likely of someone getting a VERY serious burn because they forgot you started the dishwasher.
StickStan
12-26-05, 01:40 PM
OK, Thanks for the advise.