Kitchen Gas Appliances - Propane Gas Range problem

I have an americana 30" gas range that was converted to LP gas. I have connected a 5gal propane tank according to the installation instructions.

The problem is that when the gas is turned on I do not get any gas at the burners.

Hello Phil Macaulay. Welcome to my Gas Appliances topic and the Do-It-Yourself Web Site.

Be glad to help you. But first you have to help me.

Questions:

Is the tank full? (Yes or No?)
Valve on? (Yes or No?)
Regulator working? (Yes or No?) Does the tank also have a regulator installed?? (Yes or No?) If yes, remove it. Should not have a need for two regs. Stove already has one.

Did you verify gas is infact getting to the stove? (Yes or No?)
Meaning out of the bottle and it's line to the appliance???

Does the oven work? (Yes or No?) If yes, question above is answered....yes, gas getting to stove. If no, gas isn't getting to appliance. Check for that problem. Problem than is gas supply from tank to appliance.

Kindly provide the above information and more specific and detailed information. Doing so will help me help you.

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5 gal tank does not have much supply and may not have enough pressure. Much depends upon the distance between tank and the appliance plus several presently unknown facts...etc.

Propane supply not in my area of expertise either....:( Contact the local propane dealer. May also be able to help. Setup may also be in violation of the local codes. Check with a licensed plumber and or the local city, county or area code office.

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Thanks for responding.

This is a brand new appliance. So I assume the regulator is working.

Tank is full
Valve is on.

When I disconnect the hose from the tank (after turning off the valve) there is considerable gas released from the line to the appliance. It doesn't appear that gas is getting to the appliance or at least not past the regulator.

If you are getting pressure from the tank to the stove, there could be a shut off on the appliance regulator. If there is it would be a small plastic lever mounted often on the top front of the regulator. If that's in the closed position, simply open it.

Thanks for the help. I did connect the tank directly to the appliance.

I will insert a regulator. What are the chances that the appliance regulator has blown. Would the extra pressure cause it to not work at all hence no gas at the burners?

The 5gal tank is mounted outside with a gas line going through the wall.

Phil

I will insert a regulator. What are the chances that the appliance regulator has blown. Would the extra pressure cause it to not work at all hence no gas at the burners?


If the range was hooked up directly to the tank, the chances are great that the appliance regulator is shot/blown/seized. There is a relief on the on the regulator that would (under normal circumstances) dump the excess pressure. However, these are not normal circumstances. If it would out right stop the gas from flowing, I don't know. I've never seen it hooked up directly.

I would not chance using the existing appliance regulator. You'd likely have to get a new one from GE or an appliance store. After that, you'd be best off having a professional to the repair/hookup. The money you spend with a pro will be cheaper than doing it by trial and error (not to mention safer).

Hello: Phil

I'm still missing something here......information lacking :confused:

Two questions still not answered before we can assume the regulator is damaged or not or a lever is turned on or off.

1)
Does the oven work? Burner fire up??? (Yes or No?) If yes....gas getting to stove but not the top burners. If no, gas isn't getting to appliance through the regulator on the stove.

Above question asked because you mentioned burners. What burners specifically? Top burners we can assume do not get gas but how about the oven burner? Does it work? Yes or No?

2) (Hank asked)
Now on to your problem. If you are getting pressure from the tank to the stove, there could be a shut off on the appliance regulator. If there is it would be a small plastic lever mounted often on the top front of the regulator. If that's in the closed position, simply open it.

Phil:
Did you find that lever on the appliance? If so, did you turn it on? Did you attempt to get burners to light with that lever in both positions so we would know which position is on and which is off? Need to know before assuming regulator is even damaged. May not even be damaged, rather it may simply be off....???...or not even have such a lever....???

What also is lacking is some diagnostics procedures before making assumptions parts are damaged. IMO. Above are those procedures. The results of them will better help to determine a cause for the problem encountered.

Thanks for the advice and help.

I installed the regulator between the tank and the range and was able to get the burners and oven to work.

The second time I tried to use the oven, I could not get it to light. I changed the connection rom the wall to insert a shut off valve. The burners light but the oven does not. The instructions for the stove say to check the regulator for a shut off. I cannot find anything on the regulator.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Phil

Hello: Phil

WOW! We have to dig deep into our bag of tricks for this one. So lets think it through. Burners light. Oven worked once but now does not. Regulator not likely to have any lever or device to switch from nat to propane.

When appliance are built not all have the same parts. MFG's buy from several suppliers which is why manual states "to check the regulator for a shut off." If none is found, that regulator either was replced during the conversion or it never has a convertable regulator to begin with.

Does the ovens hot surface glow ignitor glow? If so, than there is a gas problem. May be the gas control valve to the burner or if ignitor does not glow, igntior is defective, burned out. Should be but could be. Advise which is the case from the above.