Residential & Commercial Security - Locks, Keys & Dead Bolts - Can't remove commercial lockset -help

I am trying to remove a commercial passage lever handle lockset from my office door to replace with a keyed unit.

I removed the handle on the inside by sticking a paperclip thru thru the small hole in the handle and releasing the spring catch.. But I can't get the trim rings off for anything. I have pryed them and nothing. There doesn't seem to be any kind of catch. Just 3 crimped spots on the edge. The unit is not labeled with a mfr name. It is brushed StSteel with a black plastic piece inside the handle.

It really needs to come off now because it is loose and somewhat bent from my frustration. Help.....

Welcome to the forums drx7000.

Your description is not ringing a bell. Schlage commercial locks, which are often imitated, use a castle nut on the inside to hold the lock to the door. This is threaded on the body and is often inset a bit and hard to notice. Some type of retainer nut or screws are typically what you will find.

Do you have both handles off? The lock may have been installed with the inside on the outside since it does not matter much with a passage set and sometimes both handles are easy to remove.

Welcome to the forums drx7000.

Your description is not ringing a bell. Schlage commercial locks, which are often imitated, use a castle nut on the inside to hold the lock to the door. This is threaded on the body and is often inset a bit and hard to notice. Some type of retainer nut or screws are typically what you will find.

Do you have both handles off? The lock may have been installed with the inside on the outside since it does not matter much with a passage set and sometimes both handles are easy to remove.

shiejr pretty much filled you in on Schlage, so I'll give you some more info on other locks, and possibilities.

First of all, the rose plates on some models unscrew. Not full turns, just about 1/2" of turn. Others, as you already know, snap on and off.

Once you get the inside rose plate off, the screws should be right there. I'm refering to Arrow brand, US Lock brand, Taco Brand, and several others. Taco in particular, have no identifying marks. They look like the schlage levers, so it's hard to tell what you have until it's out. The Arrow, and US Lock Brand are copies of the Schlage commercial levers. The only difference is the castle nut shiejr discribed. They do not have that type of securing mechanism. However, this is the part of the schlage that becomes lose first, causing the lock to move around in the door, sag, etc.

This should get you started with some new "ammo" to attack your lock.

cuedude

Taco brand? Never heard of that one before. Regional? :confused:

Always something more to learn.

Taco is not one of your most popular brands, but a few places carry it. If it's regional, it's East Coast. They offer many items, including Leversets, panic bars, knobsets and the like.

cuedude

shiejr pretty much filled you in on Schlage, so I'll give you some more info on other locks, and possibilities.

First of all, the rose plates on some models unscrew. Not full turns, just about 1/2" of turn. Others, as you already know, snap on and off.

Once you get the inside rose plate off, the screws should be right there. I'm refering to Arrow brand, US Lock brand, Taco Brand, and several others. Taco in particular, have no identifying marks. They look like the schlage levers, so it's hard to tell what you have until it's out. The Arrow, and US Lock Brand are copies of the Schlage commercial levers. The only difference is the castle nut shiejr discribed. They do not have that type of securing mechanism. However, this is the part of the schlage that becomes lose first, causing the lock to move around in the door, sag, etc.

This should get you started with some new "ammo" to attack your lock.

cuedude


Hi I am glad I found this forum, and this post in particular. I too am trying to remove a lockset, actually a passage lever. It is a Schlage D series. I got as far as the rose plates, and unscrewed the 2 screws from the plate. I actually found the installation instructions, and the box for the old lock. I looked inside the box, but the spanner wrench is missing. :wall: Is there a way to remove the lever without a spanner? BTW, my husband says you should be eating your Thanksgiving dinner right about now, and there's no way I'll get an answer today. Thanks in advance, EE. and Happy Thanksgiving.

We managed to take it off. Mr EE used a drill bit to push in the hole. We installed a series 1 passage lever. It works! I think the trick was getting something thin, but stronger than a paper clip to push the pin. Oh, and If I would have read the directions first ont eh series 1, I would have seent eh little coiled tool... which I could have used ont he old lock to remove the handle! :p So, I guess until the next DIY, I'll just lurk. Thanks for just being there! :D EE.

Welcome to the forum and glad you got it figured out. :thumbup:

It would seem men are not the only ones who do not read the directions first. :eek:

We husbands are useful despite our occaisonal negativity. ;)

Thanks for the warm welcome. I do think I know more than the directions sometimes... also Schlage directions seem confusing, since all steps have 3 different languages on the same page for each step.

The best part of this is, even though I am not a locksmith, I used to work (about 13 years ago) for a large lock supplier. I have heard of Taco BTW, we sold it there. I didn't want to let that lock kick my butt, it was only a passage lock! :eek: I could see a double cylinder getting the best of me, but a passage lock? we used to have to take them apart and re-assemble them :wall: so we could know what we were talking about on the phone to the locksmiths.
It's jst been too long out of practice I guess, and no proper tools for the job. ie- paper clips, drill bits :rolleyes: