Carpentry and Woodworking - Noob question: Gluing and screwing 19mm pine

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Stickmangumby
07-29-05, 10:28 PM
I've just started my first project. I'm building a guitar case, basically just a large box with a pine frame and plywood top and bottom.

I'm using lengths of 19mm pine for the frame, and intend on gluing and screwing them together.

My question is, what glue would you use, and what screws do I need to hold this thing together? The stronger the joint the better, because this thing is going to get carried around a fair bit.

Thanks :)


IBM5081
07-29-05, 10:45 PM
The glue - Gorilla glue
You will need clamps because this stuff expands as it sets up.

Regarding screws - how about some wood dowels glued into a drilled hole instead.

Had you considered making some triangular blocks to strengthen the corners and some of the edges where the case might get dropped?

Stickmangumby
07-29-05, 10:52 PM
Thanks for the quick reply IBM5081.

I haven't got very much in the way of tools as this is my first project, and I'm not keen on buying clamps just yet. Would applying the gorilla glue and then screwing the pine together hold it when it was setting?

Also, are dowels stronger than screws? I'm into whatever will hold it together better.

Thanks for the tip about the corners, I will probably buy some metal corner pieces to do just that.


Hellrazor
07-30-05, 05:43 AM
Gorilla glue is great glue. BUT, it also is a pain to clean off something once it gets on it. So be very carefull that you dont use too much glue and have it squeeze out all over. It also needs water to cure, you put the glue on one piece of wood and wipe the other edge with a slightly wet rag.

XSleeper
07-30-05, 07:19 AM
I'd use Titebond II wood glue, and screw it together with 2" long finish screws (torx head). Wipe off any glue that squeezes out with a clean damp rag before it dries. It sounds like this project borders on finish work, so the screws could be sunk just below the surface, then filled with wood putty and sanded smooth to make them disappear.

Lugnut
07-31-05, 07:57 AM
Since you asking what glue 'I' would use. I would use plain ol' white glue and screws.

mako
07-31-05, 11:39 AM
As far as glue is concerned, I'm seconding the vote for Titebond II. Gorilla snot will do the job, but is 700% more messy and does not clean off of your hands without alcohol. Titebond II will hold just as strong and is made specifically for wood, as Gorilla is made for all-purpose. I'm not in favor of white glue myself, yellow glues like TBII are aliphatic resins that have a history of being tough as nails. I have some kitchen chairs that were glued up with white glue that are now delaminating in the seats and coming apart in the leg joints.

As far as the screws, yes, 2" screws, #8, with a torx head or a #2 square head will do quite well. Get a natural color wood putty to fill in the screw holes or get some pine plugs and glue/tap them into place, use a hand block and some sandpaper (100-120 grit) to sand them flush. You can finish with a good brand wipe-on polyeurethane. If you're equiped to use a spray gun, try a precatalyzed lacquer, cures much quicker than polyuerethane.