Flooring Tile - Tile / Carpet
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09-03-00, 01:36 PM
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I have a new home (less than a year old) with a vinyl floor in the kitchen. The dining area and living room are carpeted. I would like to install a tile floor in teh kitchen and dining area. The current carpet/vinyl junction is carpet over the vinyl, it is folded over and tucked with a tackstrip. I have a few questions. 1) Can I install the tile directly over the vinyl (the vinyl is glued to the plywood subfloor) ? 2) What is the best way to handle the new tile/carpet junction, I believe they will be closer to the same height and I would rather not use a metal strip ? 3) Can I pull the carpet into place and then install the tile to get the junction correct ? 4) Can I use grout to fill the space between the tile and carpet if I make it the same distance as the space between the tiles ? Any suggestions ?
Thanks,
Bob
I have a new home (less than a year old) with a vinyl floor in the kitchen. The dining area and living room are carpeted. I would like to install a tile floor in teh kitchen and dining area. The current carpet/vinyl junction is carpet over the vinyl, it is folded over and tucked with a tackstrip. I have a few questions. 1) Can I install the tile directly over the vinyl (the vinyl is glued to the plywood subfloor) ? 2) What is the best way to handle the new tile/carpet junction, I believe they will be closer to the same height and I would rather not use a metal strip ? 3) Can I pull the carpet into place and then install the tile to get the junction correct ? 4) Can I use grout to fill the space between the tile and carpet if I make it the same distance as the space between the tiles ? Any suggestions ?
Thanks,
Bob
09-03-00, 02:28 PM
Tile has been put down over vinyl but I don't recommend it. I would install a cement backer board over the vinyl using the manufacturers instructions and then lay the tile on the backerboard.
As far as the junction between the tile and carpet , consider doing the following. Pull the caropet up some and pop a line where you want the tile to come to. Lay your backerboard and tile and grout. Put down the tack strip and z-bar and tuck your carpet at the junction with the tile.
I would not recommend using any grout between the tile and carpet. It will break off because it is not supported on one side (carpet side) and you won't be able to keep it out of the carpet while applying it.
The metal bar will work but I agree with you that it looks bad.
As far as the junction between the tile and carpet , consider doing the following. Pull the caropet up some and pop a line where you want the tile to come to. Lay your backerboard and tile and grout. Put down the tack strip and z-bar and tuck your carpet at the junction with the tile.
I would not recommend using any grout between the tile and carpet. It will break off because it is not supported on one side (carpet side) and you won't be able to keep it out of the carpet while applying it.
The metal bar will work but I agree with you that it looks bad.
09-04-00, 01:34 AM
Thank you for the advice... would it be a better idea to remove the vinyl and apply the tile to the plywood sub floor ? Or remove the vinyl and still use the backerboard you suggested ? I am not familar with this backerboard, can you tell me what it is and how thick as I don't wish to raise the level of the floor any more than I have to. I have installed a few tile and slate floors but never used backerboard, the existing floors were solid and I just attached the tile to them with adhesive. As far as the carpet junction can you explain the process you recommended, I have no experiance laying carpet but would like to do the job myself, it is only a 5 foot junction and I am sure it would cost more to get someone to the job than to do it.
Thanks again,
Bob
Thanks again,
Bob
09-04-00, 06:47 PM
Bob,
I install tile and I would use a backerboard over the vinyl> Thats the only way I would doit for a customer but it has been put down over plywood. There are basically two types of backerboard available - a cement board and Hardibacker. The cement board is basically cement sandwiched between two layers if fiberglass mesh. James Hardie Company has come out with what they call Hardibacker and it is easier to use than cement board (my opinion). They both go down the same way and both are available in 1/4" or 1/2" thicknesses. Go to the web site http://www.jameshardie.com for more information on this product including installation instructions.
As far as the transition between the carpet and the tile, heres how I would do it. Pull your carpet up some from the junction. Lay your tile and finish it. Install a tack strip approximately 3/8" from the edge of the tile. Trim your pad to fit inside the tack strip and staple it down along the edges. You need to get a knee kicker at this point. Borrow one if you can. Use the kicker to tighten the carpet up and hook it on the strip. Tuck it down in front of the tile and trim off the excess. You may have to use some carpet tacks or carpet staples to fully secure the carpet.
Good Luck!
I install tile and I would use a backerboard over the vinyl> Thats the only way I would doit for a customer but it has been put down over plywood. There are basically two types of backerboard available - a cement board and Hardibacker. The cement board is basically cement sandwiched between two layers if fiberglass mesh. James Hardie Company has come out with what they call Hardibacker and it is easier to use than cement board (my opinion). They both go down the same way and both are available in 1/4" or 1/2" thicknesses. Go to the web site http://www.jameshardie.com for more information on this product including installation instructions.
As far as the transition between the carpet and the tile, heres how I would do it. Pull your carpet up some from the junction. Lay your tile and finish it. Install a tack strip approximately 3/8" from the edge of the tile. Trim your pad to fit inside the tack strip and staple it down along the edges. You need to get a knee kicker at this point. Borrow one if you can. Use the kicker to tighten the carpet up and hook it on the strip. Tuck it down in front of the tile and trim off the excess. You may have to use some carpet tacks or carpet staples to fully secure the carpet.
Good Luck!