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apiersma
04-25-05, 05:28 AM
Hi:
I am planning my deck and making a list of materials to order and I have several little detail questions as I go through my list.
1) How much concrete(in 50#bags) for eight 36" deep sonotubes. Four will be 8" wide, and four are 12" wide.
2) Since the two outside joists are attached to the side of the ledger rather than a joist hanger, they will be 3/4" shorter than the rest of the joists. Do you just order longer side joists or typically cut the rest of the joists by 3/4 inch.
3) What type of post caps am I looking for. I will have both 6x6 and 4x4 posts holding up double 2x's with no spacers?
4) For attaching the joists to the top of the beam, does one use hurricane ties or H ties.
5) are people using galvanized nails for the new ACQ lumber or something more advanced.
6) Can you get the rigth type of deck? nails for an nail gun for pressure treated decking.
Thanks
I am planning my deck and making a list of materials to order and I have several little detail questions as I go through my list.
1) How much concrete(in 50#bags) for eight 36" deep sonotubes. Four will be 8" wide, and four are 12" wide.
2) Since the two outside joists are attached to the side of the ledger rather than a joist hanger, they will be 3/4" shorter than the rest of the joists. Do you just order longer side joists or typically cut the rest of the joists by 3/4 inch.
3) What type of post caps am I looking for. I will have both 6x6 and 4x4 posts holding up double 2x's with no spacers?
4) For attaching the joists to the top of the beam, does one use hurricane ties or H ties.
5) are people using galvanized nails for the new ACQ lumber or something more advanced.
6) Can you get the rigth type of deck? nails for an nail gun for pressure treated decking.
Thanks
lefty
04-25-05, 02:15 PM
apiersma,
1.) You'll need about 1/2 yard for the sonotubes. A 60 lb. sack is 1/2 cu. ft., so you would need about 30 sacks.
2.) I cut all of my joists the same length and the 2 outside joists (rim joints) butt into the ledger and the facia, just like all of the interior joists that are in hangers. I cut blocks between the rim joists and the first joist in from that so that I can nail the rim joists in both directions -- thru the ledger or facia into the rim hoist, and thru the rim joist into the blocks.
3.) Why 6X6 posts?? You won't find a base cap to fit them that will hold a dbl. 2X girder. For the 4X4 posts, use a Simpson BCS2-2/4. If you go ahead with the 6X6 posts, you can use a BCS2-3/6 and simply add a short length of 2X along side your dbl. 2X to make up the difference.
4.) Never use either. I cut blocks of 2X to the length between the joists and stagger a row over the top of each girder, then toe-nail the joist to the girder as well.
5.) Galvanized gun nails or SS screws, depending on what you assembling the framing with.
6.) I ALWAYS use the "right type of deck" -- whatever the customer selected!! (In other words, I don't understand your question on this one!! LOL!) Explain it, and I'll be happy to give you a serious answer!
1.) You'll need about 1/2 yard for the sonotubes. A 60 lb. sack is 1/2 cu. ft., so you would need about 30 sacks.
2.) I cut all of my joists the same length and the 2 outside joists (rim joints) butt into the ledger and the facia, just like all of the interior joists that are in hangers. I cut blocks between the rim joists and the first joist in from that so that I can nail the rim joists in both directions -- thru the ledger or facia into the rim hoist, and thru the rim joist into the blocks.
3.) Why 6X6 posts?? You won't find a base cap to fit them that will hold a dbl. 2X girder. For the 4X4 posts, use a Simpson BCS2-2/4. If you go ahead with the 6X6 posts, you can use a BCS2-3/6 and simply add a short length of 2X along side your dbl. 2X to make up the difference.
4.) Never use either. I cut blocks of 2X to the length between the joists and stagger a row over the top of each girder, then toe-nail the joist to the girder as well.
5.) Galvanized gun nails or SS screws, depending on what you assembling the framing with.
6.) I ALWAYS use the "right type of deck" -- whatever the customer selected!! (In other words, I don't understand your question on this one!! LOL!) Explain it, and I'll be happy to give you a serious answer!