Flooring Tile - Help Needed...Bulging Shower Wall Part 2
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jhpresnell
03-29-05, 08:07 PM
Hey Gang....
When I last left I was going to start tearing out the tile and drywall in an attempt to figure out what was causing an area of my shower wall to "bulge" I have attached two pictures (1 showing the area I removed, 2 showing the amount of "bulge"). I have listed my questions below:
1. Why is there a layer of sheetrock and then the green sheetrock?
2. I can see that the sheetrock is bulging but it doesn't appear to be water damaged at all. Any ideas?
3. The area beneath the last tile had what appeared to be a piece of wood or something there between the tile and the showerpan to fill the gap in depth. Any idea what this is? Whatever it was it crumbled and broke so I will have a big deep gap there after fixing the wall. The bottom picture shows what i'm talking about...whatever it is has caulk over it.
4. Lastly...anyway I can salvage and reuse these tiles?
Thanks Much!
JP
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/plmokn/showerwall.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/plmokn/bulge.jpg
When I last left I was going to start tearing out the tile and drywall in an attempt to figure out what was causing an area of my shower wall to "bulge" I have attached two pictures (1 showing the area I removed, 2 showing the amount of "bulge"). I have listed my questions below:
1. Why is there a layer of sheetrock and then the green sheetrock?
2. I can see that the sheetrock is bulging but it doesn't appear to be water damaged at all. Any ideas?
3. The area beneath the last tile had what appeared to be a piece of wood or something there between the tile and the showerpan to fill the gap in depth. Any idea what this is? Whatever it was it crumbled and broke so I will have a big deep gap there after fixing the wall. The bottom picture shows what i'm talking about...whatever it is has caulk over it.
4. Lastly...anyway I can salvage and reuse these tiles?
Thanks Much!
JP
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/plmokn/showerwall.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/plmokn/bulge.jpg
joneq
03-31-05, 09:07 PM
Seems like when the shower was first installed instead of furring the studs out the thickness of the flange so that the green sheet rock coud go over the flange at the bottom the dude added 1/4 sheet rock or something after he realized the rock would't go over the flange. Not so good.
The rock could be bulging because when wood swells the nail holes get bigger and the sheetrock is no longer held tight to the stud. Could be insufficient nailing also. If the wall goes in a little then stops the nails are not holding. If the wall can't be pushed in where it bulges learn to live with it. Use screws.
who knows what it was. It was probably there to hold the tile up while the mastic cured.Looks like there is too much mastic. This will cause them to slip Use masking tape if you need to hold them up.
Soak them in water to get the sheetrock and paper off then use some adhesive remover to go the glue off. Or just scrape it off and risk breaking a tile..
Don't hold joneq to any of this. I will deny everthing.
The rock could be bulging because when wood swells the nail holes get bigger and the sheetrock is no longer held tight to the stud. Could be insufficient nailing also. If the wall goes in a little then stops the nails are not holding. If the wall can't be pushed in where it bulges learn to live with it. Use screws.
who knows what it was. It was probably there to hold the tile up while the mastic cured.Looks like there is too much mastic. This will cause them to slip Use masking tape if you need to hold them up.
Soak them in water to get the sheetrock and paper off then use some adhesive remover to go the glue off. Or just scrape it off and risk breaking a tile..
Don't hold joneq to any of this. I will deny everthing.
Tilebri
04-02-05, 06:53 AM
Personally, I'd tear it all out. If you want to salvage the tile, soaking in hot water will soften the mastic for easy removal, but honestly, you can get basic white tile like that pretty cheap. If you are just trying to do a repair job, thats just gonig to be a temporary fix given what looks to be a shoddy job in the first place. After getting everything out of there, I'd check the framing for water damage, replace any wet insulation behind the wall, which looking at your pictures, I'd also expect a mess back there, and then sister new studs where the wall is bulging to extend past the drip edge of the shower and then isntall new vapor barrier and cment board. Thos studs which are straight can be furred out by adding material ripped from a 2x4. Even the layout in the corner is obviously off from the cut tile in the corner to the rest of the side wall by atleast 1/8" The amount of caulk that is failing along the bottom only adds to the attrocious look and certainly gives questionalbe integrity to the performance of the shower. I would worry only about reusing the pan.