Walls and Ceilings - Cement Stairway Issues
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electric1
03-26-05, 09:58 PM
I am remodeling a room that has concrete stairs leading from below. What I want to do is to build a half wall on the ledge of the concrete of the floor of the room that I am remodeling. How do I construct such a thing? I am familiar with building full-sized walls, but half-walls I need a little advice on. Is there a specific name for a half-wall? It would make it a lot easier to research on. Thanks! Pictures of the exisiting stairs below.
Stairwell Pictures (http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/electric1245/album?.dir=b09f&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/electric1245/my_photos)
Stairwell Pictures (http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/electric1245/album?.dir=b09f&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/electric1245/my_photos)
Doug Aleshire
03-26-05, 10:08 PM
electric1,
It's a keewall.
Since you know how to build a wall, this is just a shorter wall. Unsure if you have an end wall to anchor to but this can be installed different ways.
The floor is concrete?
It's a keewall.
Since you know how to build a wall, this is just a shorter wall. Unsure if you have an end wall to anchor to but this can be installed different ways.
The floor is concrete?
electric1
03-26-05, 10:12 PM
Yes, there is an end wall to anchor to.
And yes, the floor is concrete.
Also, keewall returned literally no results in google. I'm guessing you meant kneewall?
And yes, the floor is concrete.
Also, keewall returned literally no results in google. I'm guessing you meant kneewall?
Doug Aleshire
03-26-05, 10:18 PM
electric1,
You have a couple of options - one is to make a double bottom plate - offset at the open end. Use lag bolts/washer and lead anchors. Drill in concrete and install anchors - this will make for a sturdy wall at the open end.
Other is to use these
https://www.confast.com/products/thunderstud-anchor.asp
Does this help?
You have a couple of options - one is to make a double bottom plate - offset at the open end. Use lag bolts/washer and lead anchors. Drill in concrete and install anchors - this will make for a sturdy wall at the open end.
Other is to use these
https://www.confast.com/products/thunderstud-anchor.asp
Does this help?
electric1
03-26-05, 10:22 PM
I think I know what you're saying. But will the wall wiggle at the top corner that is not anchored?
Doug Aleshire
03-26-05, 10:28 PM
electric1,
You may have some minor movement but the next best thing would be dowel screws and use a 4x4 on the very end. Drill a hole in concrete and insert an anchor and then predrill dead center in 4x4 - this will be a long screw. This is similar to custom stair railings. You may want to consider this but you will not get a solid - no wiggle end. It would be very slight.
Hope this helps!
You may have some minor movement but the next best thing would be dowel screws and use a 4x4 on the very end. Drill a hole in concrete and insert an anchor and then predrill dead center in 4x4 - this will be a long screw. This is similar to custom stair railings. You may want to consider this but you will not get a solid - no wiggle end. It would be very slight.
Hope this helps!
Doug Aleshire
03-26-05, 10:36 PM
Looks like this,
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?DeptID=2226&FamilyID=1694
Various fasteners - see lag anchor
https://www.confast.com/fastener-selection-guide.htm
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?DeptID=2226&FamilyID=1694
Various fasteners - see lag anchor
https://www.confast.com/fastener-selection-guide.htm
Doug Aleshire
03-27-05, 06:12 AM
electric1,
This is the best that I could find to help you. Consider the dowel screws and an inside metal corner bracket. What they show is a shallow bracket but you can get one that would be a 4" x 4" of 6" x 4". Attach this to the 4x4 post I mentioned then lay your plate down, anchoring that to the concrete floor. Build your half wall and drywall. This will be very sturdy.
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?offerings_id=10650&filter=inside%20corner%20brackets
Hope this helps!
This is the best that I could find to help you. Consider the dowel screws and an inside metal corner bracket. What they show is a shallow bracket but you can get one that would be a 4" x 4" of 6" x 4". Attach this to the 4x4 post I mentioned then lay your plate down, anchoring that to the concrete floor. Build your half wall and drywall. This will be very sturdy.
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?offerings_id=10650&filter=inside%20corner%20brackets
Hope this helps!
electric1
03-27-05, 07:25 AM
Ok, thanks for your help!