Designing Kitchens and Bathrooms - Kitchen cabinets on a brick wall
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byteRanger
03-14-05, 09:15 AM
I'm going to be installing kitchen cabinets on an interior wall that is brick with plaster coating (adjoining wall to next home). What is the best way to hang cabinets on a wall of this type? Everything I've seen about installing wall cabinets references mounting to studs.
I took down old cabinets that appeared to be custom built and were bolted to the wall with lag bolts and anchors wedged between bricks. Hanging the new cabinets in this same manner has me concerned about the ability to exactly hit the anchors in a way that will assure the cabinets are level and/or are not distorted. For the most part the cabinets I'm installing are 12 inch depth and are at the largest 30"Hx24"W and at the smallest 18"Hx24"W.
Are there any type of bracket mounting systems that can be used? That is, a lip bracket that is installed on the wall (lag bolted) that would allow another lip brack on the back of the cabinet to "hang" on the rail? Although, my concern with a system such as this would be that the cabinets would not sit flush to the wall and may have a 1/4 - 1/2 inch reveal (which could easily be covered with moulding).
I'm looking for any recommendations on how to best hang cabinets on a brick wall with no studs and assure that the cabinets will be sturdy and level.
Thx!
I took down old cabinets that appeared to be custom built and were bolted to the wall with lag bolts and anchors wedged between bricks. Hanging the new cabinets in this same manner has me concerned about the ability to exactly hit the anchors in a way that will assure the cabinets are level and/or are not distorted. For the most part the cabinets I'm installing are 12 inch depth and are at the largest 30"Hx24"W and at the smallest 18"Hx24"W.
Are there any type of bracket mounting systems that can be used? That is, a lip bracket that is installed on the wall (lag bolted) that would allow another lip brack on the back of the cabinet to "hang" on the rail? Although, my concern with a system such as this would be that the cabinets would not sit flush to the wall and may have a 1/4 - 1/2 inch reveal (which could easily be covered with moulding).
I'm looking for any recommendations on how to best hang cabinets on a brick wall with no studs and assure that the cabinets will be sturdy and level.
Thx!
Sawdustguy
03-14-05, 09:42 AM
Why not use tapcons? "The blue screws" with plastic mollys? There are other ways of attaching it too. Go to home depot and ask for their display of how concrete fastners are done.
Joe.Carrick
03-14-05, 01:24 PM
Hi byteRanger,
Either your method or the one suggested by Sawdustguy will work. Personally, I like the matched cleats because it makes the cabinets easy to remove in the future. First you rip a piece of 1/2" to 3/4" MDF to a 5" width. Then set your saw to 15 degrees and rip this into 2 equal widths. Attach one at the top back of each of your cabinets and one on the wall at the correct height to hang your cabinets.
Rip another 2-1/2" strip of MDF and mount to the back flush with the bottom of your cabinets. This will fill the gap at the bottom, but you can also cover it with a piece of moulding if you want.
You just liift the cabinets up and hang them on the cleat. The weight will hold them in place and you just need to fasten the boxes together and if necessary to any adjacent tall cabinet.
Hanging cabinets is typical in europe because when people move they take everything with them. Even plumbing fixtures are considered furnishings in some parts of europe.
Either your method or the one suggested by Sawdustguy will work. Personally, I like the matched cleats because it makes the cabinets easy to remove in the future. First you rip a piece of 1/2" to 3/4" MDF to a 5" width. Then set your saw to 15 degrees and rip this into 2 equal widths. Attach one at the top back of each of your cabinets and one on the wall at the correct height to hang your cabinets.
Rip another 2-1/2" strip of MDF and mount to the back flush with the bottom of your cabinets. This will fill the gap at the bottom, but you can also cover it with a piece of moulding if you want.
You just liift the cabinets up and hang them on the cleat. The weight will hold them in place and you just need to fasten the boxes together and if necessary to any adjacent tall cabinet.
Hanging cabinets is typical in europe because when people move they take everything with them. Even plumbing fixtures are considered furnishings in some parts of europe.
byteRanger
03-15-05, 09:45 AM
I think I'm really liking this cleat system. Can I run the wall mounted cleat the entire length of the cabinet set? That is, if my cabinets will use 10 feet of horizontal wall space, can I run a 10-foot cleat and anchor it maybe every foot or so? Or should I make a separate cleat for each cabinet? Seems mounting one cleat to the wall would make leveling much easier?
Joe.Carrick
03-15-05, 11:45 AM
Definitely run a continuous cleat on the wall - 12" o.c. fasteners is good. Mount the individual cabinet cleats so they are all at exactly the same height on the back of the cabinets (ususally flush with the top of the cabinet is best) and all of your cabinets should line up perfectly.
BTW, I even use this system in my shop for pegboard panels, cabinets, shallow shelf units, etc. It makes reorganizing really easy.
BTW, I even use this system in my shop for pegboard panels, cabinets, shallow shelf units, etc. It makes reorganizing really easy.