Water Softeners and Air Filtration Systems - Potasium Permanganate tank overfilling?

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garbin
02-07-05, 09:01 AM
I have what I believe to be a Birm GreenSand Iron filter, installed a few years ago by a company that has ceased to exist. It's done a good job of removing "organic iron" from our well water, and reducing the amount of salt used by our water softener.
Problem:
The potasium permanganate tank is filling up, and there's no room to add more of it. I read on the Birm Website faq,

" Once every one to three months, a few pounds of dry potassium permanganate powder is added to the little solution tank. The control valve injector screen should be cleaned yearly. "

I'm guessing that since this injector screen has never been cleaned that it's the likely culprit. Is this something I can clean myself, or if not, who would I call, since the installing company has gone away?

Thanks in advance,


Gary Slusser
02-07-05, 02:03 PM
Birm and manganese greensand are two different types of media. Potassium permanganate is only used with greensand, never with Birm.

Yes any blockage of the control valve brining and you don't suck solution so check your manual and find where the injector, injector throat and injector screen are and remove and clean them.

And if you don't know the brand of control valve... search for greensand filters and see if you can find a picture of your control valve or post a picture of it here. Then you can find a manual if you don't have one now.

Gary
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garbin
02-08-05, 06:27 AM
Thanks Gary,
I have the all the paper work that came with the unit when I purchased it, but I'm not sure if there's a part's list or diagram. I'll take a look at it tonight and see what I can come up with.
There is NO trade name on the unit that I have been able to find, but it looks very much like this one.
http://www.advancedh2o.com/products/brochures_html/rural/greensand.html





Birm and manganese greensand are two different types of media. Potassium permanganate is only used with greensand, never with Birm.

Yes any blockage of the control valve brining and you don't suck solution so check your manual and find where the injector, injector throat and injector screen are and remove and clean them.

And if you don't know the brand of control valve... search for greensand filters and see if you can find a picture of your control valve or post a picture of it here. Then you can find a manual if you don't have one now.


Gary Slusser
02-08-05, 09:49 PM
That looks like a Fleck 2510 control valve but theye don't say what it is.

Gary
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garbin
02-09-05, 07:35 AM
I found the number's 2510 on a white sticker inside the cover of the control valve, so I'm guessing your correct. :)
I took a look at the online manual for the 2510, and it's very similar but still different in many respects.
I'm going to make a couple of calls tonight and see if I can find a local repairman that can take care of it.
Thanks for all the help. Would it be useful if I post the required repairs onto this thread, after it's fixed?

Garbin

Gary Slusser
02-09-05, 07:58 AM
If your control is brass, it's a 2500, the 2510 is Noryl (black plastic) which is better than brass and the valve will be newer than a brass version. Thye use the same parts IIRC. Clean the injector, screen and injector throat under the steel cover held one with two screws in the center of the top of the control. You can get a manual at:
www.fleckcontrols.com

Gary
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garbin
02-17-05, 06:11 AM
Gary,
Thanks, for all the Info. I finally broke down and called a local repairman.
You were correct, it was a clogged injector screen. The tech. cleaned the screen, and gave the machine a good once over, and the charge was $39.99. (I'm pretty happy with that) He (as you said) indicated that the screen needs to be cleaned on a regular basis, and instructed me how to do it.

Garbin

Gary Slusser
02-17-05, 12:48 PM
Glad to hear that. Thank you for the followup, I wish more would do the same.

Gary
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