Solid Hardwood, Engineered and Laminate Flooring - Running Laminate lengths
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jatco
06-06-04, 10:57 AM
...Question...
In planning the layout of my laminate, I was wondering how long of a run of laminate can be laid without using a transition.
In my plans, I was thinking of running the laminate from the LR past the hall, then down the hall to the front door, then where the hallway meets the DR, continue into the DR without a T cap at the DR entrance, which is 42" wide at a 45 degree angle to the hall. It would seem easier to just run the boards through to the DR instead of dealing with a T cap and a 45 degree cut on either side of the T cap.
What's your take on that?
TIA
In planning the layout of my laminate, I was wondering how long of a run of laminate can be laid without using a transition.
In my plans, I was thinking of running the laminate from the LR past the hall, then down the hall to the front door, then where the hallway meets the DR, continue into the DR without a T cap at the DR entrance, which is 42" wide at a 45 degree angle to the hall. It would seem easier to just run the boards through to the DR instead of dealing with a T cap and a 45 degree cut on either side of the T cap.
What's your take on that?
TIA
finman
06-06-04, 11:49 AM
What Make Of Laminate Is, And How Long Is The Run. Ive Done A Few Runs Ol Laminate Of Well Over 40 Ft. The Only Real Draw Back Is, That If You Ever Have To Take Up A Damaged Board, It Will Be Alot More Difficult As You,ll Be Taking Up Alot More Boards
Carpets Done Wright
06-06-04, 12:49 PM
The problem with runnig though doorjambs is the likelyhood of it becoming locked, as the to seperate areas try to move and float opposite each other.
This also can cause the laminate to separate at the seams, if the length run parallel to the doorjamb. It still happens on a stagger end joint, if it is stair steped and not randomly rowed.
This also can cause the laminate to separate at the seams, if the length run parallel to the doorjamb. It still happens on a stagger end joint, if it is stair steped and not randomly rowed.
jatco
06-07-04, 09:41 AM
Im using Torly's UniClic Step 800 Series.
The longest run is 24'. A straight run, from one wall in the LR, past the kitchen entrance (transition piece there) thru the hall, around 2 pony walls, (at right angles to the laminate, so theres the wall's 5" thickness that the laminate will go around)..that seperate the LR from the hallway, to the wall next to where the DR starts. When I meet that wall, I will continue to lay the laminate back into the DR and up the hall to the guest bath. I know Ill have to probably cut down my last board to meet the DR at the window, instead of that being the starting point, it will be the ending point.
At the 1st pony wall (that encloses the LR area) theres 3' from 1st pony wall to a full wall, then the hallway, to a 2nd pony wall (where the DR starts) with 6' from the 2nd pony wall to the opposite full wall, where the hall continues down to a small bathroom. Its sort of an open floor plan with no doors seperating LR from hall and DR. Kinda like a square 'W' if that makes any sence.
I think a transition at the DR entrance, at a 45degree angle to that 2nd pony wall will not look good....and make the 45degree cutting that much more challenging....
What do you guys think?
The longest run is 24'. A straight run, from one wall in the LR, past the kitchen entrance (transition piece there) thru the hall, around 2 pony walls, (at right angles to the laminate, so theres the wall's 5" thickness that the laminate will go around)..that seperate the LR from the hallway, to the wall next to where the DR starts. When I meet that wall, I will continue to lay the laminate back into the DR and up the hall to the guest bath. I know Ill have to probably cut down my last board to meet the DR at the window, instead of that being the starting point, it will be the ending point.
At the 1st pony wall (that encloses the LR area) theres 3' from 1st pony wall to a full wall, then the hallway, to a 2nd pony wall (where the DR starts) with 6' from the 2nd pony wall to the opposite full wall, where the hall continues down to a small bathroom. Its sort of an open floor plan with no doors seperating LR from hall and DR. Kinda like a square 'W' if that makes any sence.
I think a transition at the DR entrance, at a 45degree angle to that 2nd pony wall will not look good....and make the 45degree cutting that much more challenging....
What do you guys think?
Carpets Done Wright
06-07-04, 05:42 PM
I'd have to see it it consult about it.
jatco
06-07-04, 08:15 PM
Ok.. Understandable.
I'll see if I can take some digi pics and download them, but Im not sure how successful that might be, based on space..and not having much of a wide angle lense to cover the area concerned.
....unless you want to take a trip up to BC for a looky loo!!!..(doubt it)..haha
I'll see if I can take some digi pics and download them, but Im not sure how successful that might be, based on space..and not having much of a wide angle lense to cover the area concerned.
....unless you want to take a trip up to BC for a looky loo!!!..(doubt it)..haha
Annette
06-08-04, 11:41 AM
does the info pamphlet that comes with your flooring say what the maximum run can be? be aware, if you go over that, you'll void the warranty.
jatco
06-09-04, 01:18 AM
No, unfortunately it doesnt, in any of the 21 languages in the info pamphlet - Nor on their website. Same with their cork plank. No specifications re: 'Run'.
I'll see if I can contact them directly.
..Edit...
Found it on their website....FAQ's -(wooops.. quess I missed that one)..
This is what they say....
" What is the maximal length that can be installed continuously without an intermediary dilatation joint? Does one always have to separate rooms from each other? Of course a dilatation joint must be provide around the perimeter of the laminate flooring and also at transit piping, thresholds, doorframes etc... The maximal length that can be installed continuously without an intermediary dilatation joint depends on the form of the house or space in which the laminate will be installed and on the climatological circumstances. If the space is more or less square, and if the variations in internal climate are not too frequent from week to weekend or during the day, it is possible to go up to 15 meters without intermediary dilatation joint. Of course the dilatation joint at the walls needs to be in correspondence with the total length. At a length of 15m for example, one must leave 15 to 20 mm dilatation joint. When a length of 15m is installed in a house, going from one room to another, passing the corridor, etc… then it is of course possible that this creates tension and possible warping of the laminate floor. This can for example happen when one room is heated and another one not. Another possibility is a heavy piece of furniture in one of the rooms, etc…. It is not absolute necessary to separate all rooms, but technical it is nevertheless advised to separate at least some rooms of the rest, by making a dilatation joint under the door. Finally it is important to mention that HDF is isotrope, and therefore as much “works” in the length as in the width.
Published on Tuesday, December 02, 2003
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So that 'max' of 15m (close to 50') is a good distance...and Im only doing about half of that...as well as going thru hall/corridor... So I dont think there would be a problem... Except for being sure the line is straight, thru the rooms.....
I'll see if I can contact them directly.
..Edit...
Found it on their website....FAQ's -(wooops.. quess I missed that one)..
This is what they say....
" What is the maximal length that can be installed continuously without an intermediary dilatation joint? Does one always have to separate rooms from each other? Of course a dilatation joint must be provide around the perimeter of the laminate flooring and also at transit piping, thresholds, doorframes etc... The maximal length that can be installed continuously without an intermediary dilatation joint depends on the form of the house or space in which the laminate will be installed and on the climatological circumstances. If the space is more or less square, and if the variations in internal climate are not too frequent from week to weekend or during the day, it is possible to go up to 15 meters without intermediary dilatation joint. Of course the dilatation joint at the walls needs to be in correspondence with the total length. At a length of 15m for example, one must leave 15 to 20 mm dilatation joint. When a length of 15m is installed in a house, going from one room to another, passing the corridor, etc… then it is of course possible that this creates tension and possible warping of the laminate floor. This can for example happen when one room is heated and another one not. Another possibility is a heavy piece of furniture in one of the rooms, etc…. It is not absolute necessary to separate all rooms, but technical it is nevertheless advised to separate at least some rooms of the rest, by making a dilatation joint under the door. Finally it is important to mention that HDF is isotrope, and therefore as much “works” in the length as in the width.
Published on Tuesday, December 02, 2003
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So that 'max' of 15m (close to 50') is a good distance...and Im only doing about half of that...as well as going thru hall/corridor... So I dont think there would be a problem... Except for being sure the line is straight, thru the rooms.....