Walls and Ceilings - 1/4 rock sizes

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apiersma
03-29-04, 01:08 PM
Anyone know if its possible to get 1/4 rock in 4x14 sheets?


HangnHzAzzOff
03-30-04, 03:42 AM
Not at the supply yards I've seen. Although 2 sheets of 4x8 would probally be alot cheaper by the time you got that 14' sheet.

coops28
03-30-04, 06:38 AM
I've never seen a 14' long anything. Probably have to go with 8 footers


boardslinger
03-30-04, 06:15 PM
14' rock is possible to get but it is a special order, and takes anywhere from 4-8 weeks to get it, on a good day. It's also very expensive and comes with a minimal sheet required purchase, something like 30 sheets or so, But don't quote me on that. Try contacting USG.

www.usg.com


Good Luck

awesomedell
03-30-04, 09:50 PM
I agree if you've got the $$ and you're ordering enough sheets, USG, Sheetrock, or Temple would run the order for you, but that's not very practical in most cases.

Not a whole lot of call for anything over a 8' sheet in 1/4" rock, too flimsy & subject to breakage. Even drywall supply houses only stock 8' in 1/4". We only use it for domes, archways, etc., what is your application going to be?

apiersma
03-31-04, 07:31 AM
Thanks all,

I am covering up an old plaster and lathe ceriling with 1/4" rock. The old ceiling has a swirl pattern on it and lots of damage so the easiest way to redo it is just cover it up.

I was trying to avoid butt joints on the ceiling by getting 14' long sheets, but that is clearly not going to happen.

Would you go to 1/2" in 14' lengths to avoid the butt joints on a ceiling or go with 8' 1/4" rock?

awesomedell
03-31-04, 04:57 PM
I would definitely recommend the 1/2" rock for a ceiling. 1/4" is too thin & will fail much sooner than 1/2". As to using long sheets to avoid butt joints, yes it's a very good idea, but I will say that tight fitting long sheets on a ceiling is a very tough job unless you're experienced with hanging drywall & have the proper equipment & a good helper.

It's very difficult to do by yourself using a panel lift, without breaking corners out of sheets, etc.

We pros use a set of adjustable benches (sawhorses) & one guy takes his end high while the other lowers his end to get the sheet square into place then it must be lifted straight up. Take careful measurements, & allow like 1/4" of play when you cut the sheets to length. It's also a good idea to check length every 4' in case your room isn't exactly square.

Hope that helps.

boardslinger
03-31-04, 05:48 PM
Dell you know that the only good helpers out there in the trade are the guys who have been doing it for years. LOL.

You could go with 12' 1/2". You'll still have a butt joint, but less of them than if you used 8'. Good Luck

awesomedell
03-31-04, 11:41 PM
I hear ya boardslinger, good RELIABLE help is always in short supply!

Anyway for a diyer I'd agree with the 1/2" 12's, it'll make the installation alot easier & the shorter butt joints won't be near as difficult for a novice finisher to make look acceptable.

Like I said, tight fitting lids isn't a job I'd recommend for a novice.

SteveBausch
03-31-04, 11:50 PM
IF that ceiling was in very good condition, I might consider taking a respirator and a mini-grinder with a cup brush to it.

You can create a new pattern with that cup brush. Don't dig into the skim coat, that would be a mess.

You could grid it with a chalkline, and work each square with a pattern of your choosing.

It would go pretty fast. A full-face shield is an excellent idea.

awesomedell
04-04-04, 08:38 AM
That board is going to be soft at the least, that better be a real soft brush. :D