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nicholerocha
06-27-03, 04:10 AM
Thanks for you advice this is really helping and it is turning out great. I have not started staining yet but I am curious to know if I should sand it with a finer sandpaper before applying the stain or afterwards? also will I be needing a sealant for the table top, and if so what kind do I look into using? thanks for all your help:)
chfite
06-27-03, 07:14 AM
Depending upon the wood involved, sanding to about 120 - 150 grit would be the most. What you want to do is to eliminate the scratches from the prior grits. Too fine a paper will tend to shine the wood hampering the staining process and deposit a fine dust that will be challenging to remove on open grained woods such as: ash.
You would not sand after staining. If you are going to use a water borne stain or dye and are concerned about raising the grain during staining, it would be better to raise the grain prior to the last round of sanding to cut off anything that gets raised by the moisture. If you are going to use an oil stain, this is not a concern. The oil product won't raise the grain.
I don't understand about a sealant. The finish that you apply to the stained surface will seal the wood. If you are inquiring about which clear finish to use, post back with that question and we'll get to work on it for you.
Hope this helps.
You would not sand after staining. If you are going to use a water borne stain or dye and are concerned about raising the grain during staining, it would be better to raise the grain prior to the last round of sanding to cut off anything that gets raised by the moisture. If you are going to use an oil stain, this is not a concern. The oil product won't raise the grain.
I don't understand about a sealant. The finish that you apply to the stained surface will seal the wood. If you are inquiring about which clear finish to use, post back with that question and we'll get to work on it for you.
Hope this helps.
nicholerocha
06-30-03, 05:08 AM
Hello Chris, thank you for your reply. I am just a little puzzled. let me see if i understand what you are saying. when i apply a water based stain the grain will rise? is that correct. and if so, is it safe to use water on the oak table just as is..in order to raise the remaining grain. and then sand with a 120-150 grit paper? please help. thank you Rosa
chfite
06-30-03, 06:43 AM
I ordinarily use water based dyes on wood for staining. After the finish sanding and before the staining, I wipe the surface with a damp cloth to raise the grain, then sand it lightly with some 150 grit paper to take off what rises from the water. This is not necessary, if you are going to use an oil based stain.
If you use an oil based stain, using a water based finish will not raise the grain because it has been treated with the oil stain.
Hope this helps.
If you use an oil based stain, using a water based finish will not raise the grain because it has been treated with the oil stain.
Hope this helps.