Walls and Ceilings - "Smoke" film on drywall
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kathie659
04-03-03, 07:13 AM
I installed drywall to a rental unit - cathedral ceilings - Tenant smokes heavily and burns candles all the time (don't suggest eviction, she's an inlaw)
There's a film on sheetrock - most notably the upper seams and screw heads are visible and look like black dots - you can't feel them - they're not popping - I'ts been suggested (by my brother a sheetrocker for some 25 years) that its a reaction to the wax from candle wicks and the excessive smoking. A contractor I know said he had this same problem caused by a tenant and sued them for it (and won).
You can actully feel the film - and trying to wipe with a damp rag just "smears" the film.
I'm hesitant to repaint as I feel the condition will continue as long as she's there, but hate to see the home in this condition.
Will KILZ or a similar product cover this? It's also been suggested that I use a product called fire brick (which I've never heard of) and "sand walls" with it.
There's a film on sheetrock - most notably the upper seams and screw heads are visible and look like black dots - you can't feel them - they're not popping - I'ts been suggested (by my brother a sheetrocker for some 25 years) that its a reaction to the wax from candle wicks and the excessive smoking. A contractor I know said he had this same problem caused by a tenant and sued them for it (and won).
You can actully feel the film - and trying to wipe with a damp rag just "smears" the film.
I'm hesitant to repaint as I feel the condition will continue as long as she's there, but hate to see the home in this condition.
Will KILZ or a similar product cover this? It's also been suggested that I use a product called fire brick (which I've never heard of) and "sand walls" with it.
chfite
04-03-03, 09:18 AM
Kilz and Zinsser both make a product for covering smoke damage. It will seal in the soot and the odor. Then you can paint.
kathie659
04-03-03, 09:48 AM
Thanks Chris - I'll give it a go!
Kathy
Kathy
awesomedell
04-04-03, 04:24 AM
I'd suggest getting the smoke film off the drywall before repainting. Two products I've found that work for this situation, I was just mentioning to Peggy another thread. Mean Green or Awesome, both will cut smoke film when used at a slightly dliuted strength. Best of luck. God don't you just love out-laws, I mean in-laws. :D
kathie659
04-04-03, 09:33 AM
So I should remove smoke film, apply a Kilz like product and repaint and throw out the in-law (I wish).
Is there any paint that is more resistant to this type of film or perhaps a high quality air filter/smoke eater (as they call them in bars) that I can utilize? The main floor is approx. 14 x 38 w/ cathedrals (I'm guessing) 14 - 15 ' to peak)
Any math wizards out there that can calculate the area so I can price appropriate size units?
I just about made it through basic college math!
Kathy
Is there any paint that is more resistant to this type of film or perhaps a high quality air filter/smoke eater (as they call them in bars) that I can utilize? The main floor is approx. 14 x 38 w/ cathedrals (I'm guessing) 14 - 15 ' to peak)
Any math wizards out there that can calculate the area so I can price appropriate size units?
I just about made it through basic college math!
Kathy
chfite
04-04-03, 06:12 PM
An eggshell or semi-gloss would be easier to clean than a flat paint.
The room would be approximately 5580 cubic feet with a 15 foot peak cathedral ceiling.
The film is most likely from the candles since they gutter all the time.
The room would be approximately 5580 cubic feet with a 15 foot peak cathedral ceiling.
The film is most likely from the candles since they gutter all the time.
awesomedell
04-05-03, 02:34 AM
Hi Kathy,
Here's a link to a good project calculator on the net. They have these set up for paint, drywall carpet, about anything. You just fill in the blanks as to width & height, etc click calc, & it does the rest for you.
http://www.improvenet.com/projecttools/calc/paint.html#
Good luck.
Here's a link to a good project calculator on the net. They have these set up for paint, drywall carpet, about anything. You just fill in the blanks as to width & height, etc click calc, & it does the rest for you.
http://www.improvenet.com/projecttools/calc/paint.html#
Good luck.
kathie659
04-05-03, 07:58 AM
The calculator will really come in handy as I will (hopefully) be insulating/drywalling my garage to convert it to living space!
Thanks again - Kathy
Thanks again - Kathy
Mike Swearingen
04-05-03, 09:48 AM
If worse comes to worse, you can paint Kilz directly over the smoke stain film., although it would be better to clean it off. I have even seen Kilz used to seal charred wood from a minor house fire (it worked).
Good Luck!
Mike
Good Luck!
Mike
awesomedell
04-06-03, 07:14 PM
Kilz is good stuff, works great for covering up water stains on textured ceilings also.