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MeffaDawg
04-02-03, 04:31 PM
I'm planning a built-in gas bbq grill that will be built with cinder block. I'd like to install a stainless access door that looks to be standard fare with type of setup, but I'm not sure how to plan for that.
What puzzles me is how to install the block that would go on top of the frame? I thought about building everthing and then tracing out on the wall the door frame and then cut with my circular saw and masonry blade. Am I out of my mind with this thinking?
Is there an easier way? Here's a url to a pic of what I'm talking about. http://store5.yimg.com/I/gasgrill-store_1728_5267806
What puzzles me is how to install the block that would go on top of the frame? I thought about building everthing and then tracing out on the wall the door frame and then cut with my circular saw and masonry blade. Am I out of my mind with this thinking?
Is there an easier way? Here's a url to a pic of what I'm talking about. http://store5.yimg.com/I/gasgrill-store_1728_5267806
fast3
04-03-03, 07:32 PM
Just a suggestion, but why not move the top of the door up to the next mortar joint and install a 1/4" flat steel/ss lintel to carry the block above the door. You can then cut the appropiate piece on the bottom of the door and fill solid if needed.
Bob
Bob
MeffaDawg
04-03-03, 07:44 PM
That sounds like a good idea. Believe it or not I haven't actually seen the door yet, nobody around here carries them stock and they have to be ordered. I believe it's a stainless frame with a small flange on the front, but until I get it I'm still guessing on how to do this.
I've never built with cinder blocks before. I plan to finish the entire face with cultured stone so what it looks like underneath isn't so important, as long as it's solid and laid out well I'll be happy. My brother works at a steel supply company so I should be able to get just about anything for free.
Another question: Do I HAVE to use rebar in some of the cinder block holes and then fill with concrete? I hadn't planned to do this but someone had recommended it but couldn't tell me why.
This is a very expensive project that will end up costing around $5000, so I just want to do this right the first time around without cutting corners.
I've never built with cinder blocks before. I plan to finish the entire face with cultured stone so what it looks like underneath isn't so important, as long as it's solid and laid out well I'll be happy. My brother works at a steel supply company so I should be able to get just about anything for free.
Another question: Do I HAVE to use rebar in some of the cinder block holes and then fill with concrete? I hadn't planned to do this but someone had recommended it but couldn't tell me why.
This is a very expensive project that will end up costing around $5000, so I just want to do this right the first time around without cutting corners.
fast3
04-03-03, 07:54 PM
I don't believe that you need the extra reinforcing but it probably wouldn't hurt anything. Are you putting this on a foundation of some kind?
Bob
Bob
MeffaDawg
04-03-03, 08:05 PM
I planned to build a frame the size of the whole layout and pour a 3"-4" slab. I was planning on setting the first row of blocks into the slab and let this set and then build up from there.
I haven't been able to find much on how to build cinder block walls, but figure it's not rocket science! The layout is going to kinda look like the letter "M" with a bay on the left side for an undercounter refrigerator and the grill on the right side. I planned to put a 2" piece of bluestone over the bay where the fridge is for a counter, so the middle, back & left side will support the bluestone.
I haven't been able to find much on how to build cinder block walls, but figure it's not rocket science! The layout is going to kinda look like the letter "M" with a bay on the left side for an undercounter refrigerator and the grill on the right side. I planned to put a 2" piece of bluestone over the bay where the fridge is for a counter, so the middle, back & left side will support the bluestone.