| Let me explain that you are far from an idiot. I have been installing boilers all my life and am still learning everyday, especially about those mod con boilers and such. The idiot is the one who thinks he knows it all and asks no questions. I do not get as far into the numbers game as few of the guys on this site, but I have installed 3 Munchkin boilers so far and love them, as well do the customers.. Pay close attention to the installation instructions in these boilers and be prepared to spend quite a lot more for initial investment compared to a standard boiler. __________________ Please read user profile. Remember... "Can't never did a damn thing but try always did" Mark |